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19.08.2015 - 16:42
The skill gap is widening and iv heard alot of interesting theories as to why. Well heres mine, when most of us started playing with the exception of some, there where no custom maps or at the very start of custom maps they sucked. Well now they are here and they are here to stay, here my problem, almost all custom maps are unbalanced and easily exploitable by a low rank player looking to abuse those exploits for quick sp. That is an issue in itself aswell as the valueable training you get early on from playing the world map. Each year iv watch a new generation flow in and each year iv watched them get dumber and more and more of the old players leave do to lack of interest. The only way i see viable to mend the tear is to not allow players access to scenario right away. Make it a feature you must work twards. Through leveling up to rank 5 and learning the fundementals of the game. This is what made this game fun. This is what we need to go back to. I am a map maker i make these scenarios myself so dont think im just some old geezer on this game bitching about scenarios, i want the quality of the player playing my scenarios to increase so i and everyone else can enjoy the game more. Tell me what you think about a mandetory rank 5 requirement on all scenarios. If this dont suite you we need something because this game is falling fast right off a cliff.
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19.08.2015 - 16:45
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No support ( Edit ) This game is doing fine, the low ranks are at the same skill level we all were, the only way they learn is by playing. If you want to have better players, let them learn.
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19.08.2015 - 16:46
Wr1tt3n by Guest, 19.08.2015 at 16:45

No support

Either explain yourself or dont post, you help nothing.
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19.08.2015 - 16:47
I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners
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19.08.2015 - 16:48
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Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 16:47

I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners

This is a better suggestion
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19.08.2015 - 16:50
Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 16:47

I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners

how would that help, they just roll around in the mud with other new players and accomplish nothing, the issue is the scenario play being unbalanced and easily exploitable.
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19.08.2015 - 16:53
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Wr1tt3n by Helly, 19.08.2015 at 16:50

Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 16:47

I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners

how would that help, they just roll around in the mud with other new players and accomplish nothing, the issue is the scenario play being unbalanced and easily exploitable.

You would rather quit out of frustration and not even bother learning because they are playing with players out of their league? If they play with other people closer to their skill level for longer they wont run to scenarios out of fear of losing to a r10.
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19.08.2015 - 16:54
I do not support the idea fully. I believe some scenarios should be only meant for rank 5's and down. In my opinion, if you take all the scenarios from the low ranks no one will wish to play. the world map and such get tedious after awhile. So in conclusion i would suggest having certain scenarios made for the low ranks while the serious players get to enjoy maps without the low rank and skill gap problems.
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19.08.2015 - 16:56
Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.

Pros:

- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:

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19.08.2015 - 16:58
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Its simple,make tutorial a must when starting to play AW and explain them the simple rules by it (such as no WFing,no leaving,no taking of ally land and such),im tired of r5s and r6s saying stuff like "whats WF?
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19.08.2015 - 17:02
Wr1tt3n by Helly, 19.08.2015 at 16:50

Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 16:47

I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners

how would that help, they just roll around in the mud with other new players and accomplish nothing, the issue is the scenario play being unbalanced and easily exploitable.

cuz there is huge(for some1 who is r5) gap in sp between r5 and r6 that is i think bigger than r0-r5 so they learn to play somewhat.
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19.08.2015 - 22:47
I am also noticing how so many low ranks have no skill, fully support this suggestion... so my question is, how can we convince mods and admins to implement this??
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19.08.2015 - 23:13
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Make a third lobby for intermediate, So it's begginer 1-3, Intermediate 4-6(?), and Main 7+. Scenarios and RP are only allowed in Main room. GG
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20.08.2015 - 00:10

If I weren't able to play scenarios back when I was rank 5 I would've quit the game and gotten a real life.
Joke aside, no support.
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20.08.2015 - 00:24
Stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life. This would make the game boring.
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20.08.2015 - 01:20
Wr1tt3n by GamerCady, 20.08.2015 at 00:24

Stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life. This would make the game boring.

You are cute. How about you come here with your real account or play a game... it seems its been over 400 days since your last game. How exactly is the game boring if you don't play?
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20.08.2015 - 01:48
Wr1tt3n by Nero, 19.08.2015 at 23:13

Make a third lobby for intermediate, So it's begginer 1-3, Intermediate 4-6(?), and Main 7+. Scenarios and RP are only allowed in Main room. GG

So ranks 6 and 4 have to play in the same mud?
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20.08.2015 - 02:37
Wr1tt3n by Helly, 19.08.2015 at 16:42

The skill gap is widening and iv heard alot of interesting theories as to why.

Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.
Pros:
- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:
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Your desire to make players play better is good, but why do you think that if you limit newcomers and low ranks in their gaming experience it'll help you achieve your goal? In reality, not many people are interested to memorize or deeply analyze how the game mechanics work, or care about being any better than they are. If this idea will be executed, then don't be surprised when these low ranks and newcomers get bored and fed up with the default map, and quit the game altogether, resulting in poor increase in players base.
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20.08.2015 - 02:41
Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.

Pros:

- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:

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They will learn nothing with 50k games
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20.08.2015 - 03:00
Wr1tt3n by GamerCady, 20.08.2015 at 00:24

Stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life. This would make the game boring.

If you never knew they existed and never tried them in the first place you would never know the diference.
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20.08.2015 - 03:01
Wr1tt3n by Nero, 19.08.2015 at 23:13

Make a third lobby for intermediate, So it's begginer 1-3, Intermediate 4-6(?), and Main 7+. Scenarios and RP are only allowed in Main room. GG

Nero goes further then me and I support #Nero4Mod
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20.08.2015 - 03:02
Wr1tt3n by Lemonade, 20.08.2015 at 02:41

Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.

Pros:

- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:

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They will learn nothing with 50k games

Speculation idk how old a playet you are but 50k always existed and its not all we played before custom map.
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20.08.2015 - 03:05
Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 17:02

Wr1tt3n by Helly, 19.08.2015 at 16:50

Wr1tt3n by mate2709, 19.08.2015 at 16:47

I think r5s and lower should be forbidden from entering main room they should be restricted to beginners

how would that help, they just roll around in the mud with other new players and accomplish nothing, the issue is the scenario play being unbalanced and easily exploitable.

cuz there is huge(for some1 who is r5) gap in sp between r5 and r6 that is i think bigger than r0-r5 so they learn to play somewhat.

They don't and have no what so ever in a year, as I said a skill gap is widening, a rank 5 from 2013:would decimate one of these rp noobs.
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20.08.2015 - 03:22
Wr1tt3n by Helly, 20.08.2015 at 03:02

Wr1tt3n by Lemonade, 20.08.2015 at 02:41

Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.

Pros:

- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:

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They will learn nothing with 50k games

Speculation idk how old a playet you are but 50k always existed and its not all we played before custom map.


sorry but 4 of 5 games are 50k worldgames
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20.08.2015 - 03:29
Wr1tt3n by Lemonade, 20.08.2015 at 03:22

Wr1tt3n by Helly, 20.08.2015 at 03:02

Wr1tt3n by Lemonade, 20.08.2015 at 02:41

Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.

Pros:

- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:

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They will learn nothing with 50k games

Speculation idk how old a playet you are but 50k always existed and its not all we played before custom map.


sorry but 4 of 5 games are 50k worldgames

Today yes because we bred two generations of assholes looking for quick sp instead of nurturing our low ranks into players who can compete with us.
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20.08.2015 - 03:33
Someone buys premium before rank 5 ...cant enjoy the full game before reaching a requirement?
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20.08.2015 - 03:34
Wr1tt3n by Goblin, 20.08.2015 at 03:33

Someone buys premium before rank 5 ...cant enjoy the full game before reaching a requirement?

It should of never been this way in the first place. Possibly if in acted we can add community voted maps they may play before rank 5, but you got to see the big picture.
(Edit) tons of games you buy a 60 dollar product then unlock other parts of the game later. Diference is we don't charge them twice you just have to meet a rank requirement.
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20.08.2015 - 11:57
Wr1tt3n by Abraham, 20.08.2015 at 02:37

Wr1tt3n by Helly, 19.08.2015 at 16:42

The skill gap is widening and iv heard alot of interesting theories as to why.

Wr1tt3n by Permamuted, 19.08.2015 at 16:56

Support, I've said it before, new players shouldnt be allowed to play scenarios/custom maps until r5.
Pros:
- Gives low ranks something to work toward, theyll play more games and hopefully the addiction will take hold(got me at r4).
- Theyll actually learn the basics with the default units rather than be overwhelmed(possibly) with various custom units.
- Improves quality of low ranks.

Cons:
?

Your desire to make players play better is good, but why do you think that if you limit newcomers and low ranks in their gaming experience it'll help you achieve your goal? In reality, not many people are interested to memorize or deeply analyze how the game mechanics work, or care about being any better than they are. If this idea will be executed, then don't be surprised when these low ranks and newcomers get bored and fed up with the default map, and quit the game altogether, resulting in poor increase in players base.


who said anything about deeply analyzing battle mechanics or memorising? These are new players we are talking about. We want them to learn how to wall and that tanks are good for attacking.

You should also not be surprised if in their desire to try out all the fancy custom maps that new players actually learn some basics and get hooked on the game.

I cant imagine what starting as a r1 in an rp must be like. So many different units and you havent a clue what the stats mean. And then there are so many different rps and various other custom maps with more different units and whatnot.

The default map is great, it was the starting point for the first generation of atwar, it wont do any harm making it the starting point for newer generations(we obviously went wrong somewhere along the way).
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20.08.2015 - 12:36
Deleted the spam, take your cockroach issues to offtopic.
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20.08.2015 - 18:02
Wr1tt3n by GamerCady, 20.08.2015 at 00:24

Stupidest shit I've ever heard in my life. This would make the game boring.

Oh look, an Australian shitposting, how surprising.
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