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07.10.2014 - 08:58
This forum post is dedicated to walls and their type.

For advance concepts, please refer to this other post.
Advanced concepts about Walls: Investigation. >>>>>>>>> http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=17714

For walling tactics, please refer to this other post.
Walling Tactics >>>> http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=24572


Introduction: What do we call "Wall"?

When two units are closer, but not too closer, the game form a line that goes from one side to another side. We call this line a "Wall". It is a very useful feature in the game (sometimes crucial), and so is the mysterious environment that goes across their mechanics. I will post the very basic in this thread.




First wall: Consist of the well known 3 man wall, that when succesfull, provides protection for 1 turn:








Second wall: Also know as "palace" or circle wall. it provides you with protection for two turns. This is the shorter way to do it and it consists of 6 + 3 units:

First, its important to wall the city to the smallest size possible.
Starting from this side of the wall.
You can choose the side its best, but remember to leave a small space.


When third step is done, you better fix the first unit you moved as it will be linked with the central wall. When you move it, the unit will now link with the second outside unit, leaving central wall with no link.

Finishing the wall, it should look like this.

When you start your turn, your city is now protected for two turns!




Third wall: Third wall: This wall, consumes al lot of units and is very hard to use, but if you do it on turn 1, then you have protection until reinforcement week!( useful when you are very likery to be rushed from the start, and you wanna survive somehow. The most economic way need over 3 mins and 10 + 6 + 3 units, though you will need more to avoid possible fails. .It starts like the previous one:

We start from here, again. Be sure to fix the external link asap you put the second unit.

This is the wall, completed. Protections for 3 turns.




Other type of walls: Other type of walls: Yes is possible to do other type of walls, such as sea walls, transport walls, rewall and serbian wall.

Sea walls:: Sea units are also able to wall, but you can also make a sea wall with land units.






This whole point about Sea Walls was made for two implications that are wort mentioning. In the next point, you will see some bugs that are related to sea walls.

1. For break a sea wall made by land units, you need to aim for the center of the wall. The only question is really till which length you can do it. At 100% and 50% length you can do it for sure, but at some point near 1% you will receive an error:



According to game, you can attack it. However when you try it fails. I haven't discovered a way for break this type of walls at a point closer to
10% (for security) of their length. All the test failed at this point.

The way in which you need to calculate range exactly makes this hard to do too. I cannot put my general there. This will probably be provide by a Map Maker which can change unit's range. But for now, all is empirical.

If you superimpose your sea transports over the last unit of the wall, you can get your sea transport to form part of the wall.




Rewall and Serbian wall.

Qu0t3:

Rewall and Serbian wall aren't accepted by the competitive community as a whole, ask your clan leader on your clans before using it.


Rewall: Consist of the re-make of the wall so you are protected for another turn.












Serbian Wall: Consist of the killing of all the units of a wall, then make a wall in the same turn.

1) We get the units necessary for the target.

2) We *try* to make a wall in the city.

3) We kill all the units. It is essential to send enough units so all the units that are walling die.






Auto-Wall: If you have this wall:




And you move the unit that was preventing the wall to be made, doesnt matter if you add new wallfuck:



The wall will be made.



The only way to prevent this is attacking one of the units that are walling. If the enemy move, at least one of the units that are wallfucked, the auto-wall will not take effect. If nor you nor the enemy touch or move or attack the wallfucking unit, then the wall will stay wallfucked.




Kill the unit, then wall at the same turn.

This is the situation: Your enemy have one city, and the city only have one unit around it.



The trick consist on killing the unit and making a wall at the same turn.



There are only three scenarios in which the situation would fail:

1. You didn't send enough units for kill the enemy's unit. In this way, the enemy's unit would stay as WF and your wall would've WF'ed.
2. The enemy send one extra WF unit to the city.
3. Your attacking units get turn blocked.... or some random AW mechanic in which his unit simply stay there.




Big wall.




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07.10.2014 - 09:07
Spam!
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07.10.2014 - 09:16
Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

Waffel for mod 2015
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07.10.2014 - 09:36
No, apparently not everybody know these.a mod should erase offtopics, to keep this clean.
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07.10.2014 - 10:10
Wr1tt3n by clovis1122, 07.10.2014 at 08:58



you know the palace wall is useless? it ca be opened in one turn, if you open the outer wall and place a wf beside it as close as possible to the inner wall for some reason it opens the inner wall too.
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07.10.2014 - 11:40
I request having somewhere next to rewall and serbian wall '' These aren't accepted by the competitive community as a whole, ask your clan leader on your clans stance on it'' or something among those lines.
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07.10.2014 - 11:52
Lol i remember when i started doing 2 layer walls in 3v3 and people call me noob, and now is a standar. Lel
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07.10.2014 - 11:56
*TEST*

Although it cannot be breaked by placing a wf, it can be breaked by zooming.

I will elaborate a double wall with more units for secure against the zoom bug.

Wr1tt3n by The Tactician, 07.10.2014 at 11:40

I request having somewhere next to rewall and serbian wall '' These aren't accepted by the competitive community as a whole, ask your clan leader on your clans stance on it'' or something among those lines.


ok, gonna do
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08.10.2014 - 05:56
Wr1tt3n by Khal.eesi, 07.10.2014 at 09:36

No, apparently not everybody know these.a mod should erase offtopics, to keep this clean.

Can you gtfo? Stop talking to me, stalking me in forums, and commenting on me every time. Are you obsessed?
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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08.10.2014 - 08:25
Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 09:16

Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?

Please start contributing to the community yourself or simply let other people do it.
Stop "going dutch".
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08.10.2014 - 08:32
Wr1tt3n by Columna Durruti, 08.10.2014 at 08:25

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 09:16

Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?

Please start contributing to the community yourself or simply let other people do it.
Stop "going dutch".


But waffle is right, this is stuff everybody knows.
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08.10.2014 - 08:38
Wr1tt3n by Tundy, 08.10.2014 at 08:32

Wr1tt3n by Columna Durruti, 08.10.2014 at 08:25

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 09:16

Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?

Please start contributing to the community yourself or simply let other people do it.
Stop "going dutch".


But waffle is right, this is stuff everybody knows.

... idc, it is being said and documented. That's the issue.
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08.10.2014 - 11:07
Wr1tt3n by Columna Durruti, 08.10.2014 at 08:25

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 09:16

Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?

Please start contributing to the community yourself or simply let other people do it.
Stop "going dutch".

I contributed enough, but everytime I say something with my opinion in a thread. All I hear is '' delete waffel's coments he is personal attacking'' waffel stop personal attacking, waffel stop being mean, waffel stop blabla... and then mods delete my threads/comments.
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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08.10.2014 - 11:09
Wr1tt3n by Columna Durruti, 08.10.2014 at 08:25

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 07.10.2014 at 09:16

Everybody already knows this....
Not being mean, but are you trying to qualfy for mod by any chance?

Please start contributing to the community yourself or simply let other people do it.
Stop "going dutch".

And bye the way, this just trying ''trying to do more for atwar, because maybe I can be mod by doing it'' stuff..

My country has nothing to do with this whole topic, idk why u say ''stop going dutch''?
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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08.10.2014 - 13:14
Serbian walls the best!
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09.10.2014 - 20:08
I didnt know serbian walls actually had a name.. can i ask why peopele are against rewalling and "serban" walling? it's something that anyone can do throughout the game and unlike a first turn wf, you dont do it on say turn 1....
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Wr1tt3n by clovis1122, 09.10.2014 at 22:57

Wr1tt3n by Pheonixking929, 09.10.2014 at 20:08

I didnt know serbian walls actually had a name.. can i ask why peopele are against rewalling and "serban" walling? it's something that anyone can do throughout the game and unlike a first turn wf, you dont do it on say turn 1....


It have this name because the guy who bring it to the community put that name. I think it was Steve Aoki, but I dont know.

There are different opinions about it. Some people like to do it, but some does not. This is why you need to ask your clanmates if you can use it.

>Steve aoki, these walls were here around before MK was created, or Mauzer was rank 9+.. the person who started this was Pera, some say even before pera it was Ironail.
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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10.10.2014 - 03:26
I am on atwar for a year only. I cant be the one who gave that name to that sexy thing called "Serbian walling". And I would like to know who and why did gave that kind of name too.
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10.10.2014 - 07:17
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Wr1tt3n by clovis1122, 09.10.2014 at 22:57

Wr1tt3n by Pheonixking929, 09.10.2014 at 20:08

I didnt know serbian walls actually had a name.. can i ask why peopele are against rewalling and "serban" walling? it's something that anyone can do throughout the game and unlike a first turn wf, you dont do it on say turn 1....


It have this name because the guy who bring it to the community put that name. I think it was Steve Aoki, but I dont know.

There are different opinions about it. Some people like to do it, but some does not. This is why you need to ask your clanmates if you can use it.

>Steve aoki, these walls were here around before MK was created, or Mauzer was rank 9+.. the person who started this was Pera, some say even before pera it was Ironail.


Ikr, this shit has existed since 2012, it just didn't had a name and wasn't widely used, i remember doing "serbia" walling back in late 2012 in world maps.

Is annoying when people name and claim tactics like this as their own, when probably clans like SRB and Dalmatia had stuff like this in their forums and is barely being re-discover or noticed.
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10.10.2014 - 07:19
Wr1tt3n by Tundy, 10.10.2014 at 07:17

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 10.10.2014 at 02:30

Wr1tt3n by clovis1122, 09.10.2014 at 22:57

Wr1tt3n by Pheonixking929, 09.10.2014 at 20:08

I didnt know serbian walls actually had a name.. can i ask why peopele are against rewalling and "serban" walling? it's something that anyone can do throughout the game and unlike a first turn wf, you dont do it on say turn 1....


It have this name because the guy who bring it to the community put that name. I think it was Steve Aoki, but I dont know.

There are different opinions about it. Some people like to do it, but some does not. This is why you need to ask your clanmates if you can use it.

>Steve aoki, these walls were here around before MK was created, or Mauzer was rank 9+.. the person who started this was Pera, some say even before pera it was Ironail.


Ikr, this shit has existed since 2012, it just didn't had a name and wasn't widely used, i remember doing "serbia" walling back in late 2012 in world maps.

Is annoying when people name and claim tactics like this as their own, when probably clans like SRB and Dalmatia had stuff like this in their forums and is barely being re-discover or noticed.

Ikr??
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Wr1tt3n by Guest14502, 11.10.2014 at 09:44

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Wr1tt3n by Tundy, 10.10.2014 at 07:17

Wr1tt3n by Waffel, 10.10.2014 at 02:30

Wr1tt3n by clovis1122, 09.10.2014 at 22:57

Wr1tt3n by Pheonixking929, 09.10.2014 at 20:08

I didnt know serbian walls actually had a name.. can i ask why peopele are against rewalling and "serban" walling? it's something that anyone can do throughout the game and unlike a first turn wf, you dont do it on say turn 1....


It have this name because the guy who bring it to the community put that name. I think it was Steve Aoki, but I dont know.

There are different opinions about it. Some people like to do it, but some does not. This is why you need to ask your clanmates if you can use it.

>Steve aoki, these walls were here around before MK was created, or Mauzer was rank 9+.. the person who started this was Pera, some say even before pera it was Ironail.


Ikr, this shit has existed since 2012, it just didn't had a name and wasn't widely used, i remember doing "serbia" walling back in late 2012 in world maps.

Is annoying when people name and claim tactics like this as their own, when probably clans like SRB and Dalmatia had stuff like this in their forums and is barely being re-discover or noticed.

Ikr??


nc uk and uk op sea walls are mine though.First to put them on action and in cws.Time for khal uk name.And instead of the word sea walls, its khall walls now.thanks.i accept.
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29.05.2015 - 11:29
Sup guys,

There are some cities which can be walled using the typical 3 units. Here are some GIF of cities that can be walled in this way, in order of difficult:

Easy: Capital on land. No Water or River near.

1. Paris - http://i.imgur.com/QxcBYPK.gif
2. Kansas - http://i.imgur.com/RIQ1RAj.gif
3. Teheran - http://i.imgur.com/TvMoDGx.gif
4. Harare - http://i.imgur.com/Q466z1v.gif


Medium: The city have a small patch of wall near. Requires some maneuver.

1. Dominicain Republic - http://i.imgur.com/9HhcoTw.gif
2. London - http://i.imgur.com/NRUgWXZ.gif
3.Manila - http://i.imgur.com/kmXL7jc.gif
4. Chicago - http://i.imgur.com/oo2lohf.gif

Medium-Hard: The city is under fragments of Land & Sea. Requires certain Maneuvers.

1. Shangai - http://i.imgur.com/xZkTTdK.gif
2. Chittagong - http://i.imgur.com/LyMLXQk.gif
3. Stockholm - http://i.imgur.com/zFLvUEk.gif
4. Athens - http://i.imgur.com/f2Qid4W.gif
5. Panama - http://i.imgur.com/4pmzzO4.gif
3. Bursan - http://i.imgur.com/TrdYVO0.gif

Hard: Cities are too closer to Sea. Requires special Maneuver.

1. Split - http://i.imgur.com/V1ksBDL.gif
2. Caracas - http://i.imgur.com/JsOHQR1.gif
3. Lebanon - http://i.imgur.com/sxAMZFC.gif
4. Alexandria - http://i.imgur.com/RBMu5O4.gif
5. Luanda - http://i.imgur.com/nIzcUx4.gif

Super Hard: Requires complicated Maneuvers. Hard to do.

1. Somalia - http://i.imgur.com/s6gUs4f.gif
2. Lagos & Benin - http://i.imgur.com/WYzPCZ4.gif
3. Helsinki - http://i.imgur.com/r1GYfTQ.gif

Now for the Super Hard I've zoom in so it can look more appropriated, but they can be done even without zoom. I don't suggest anyone to use it without practice, as it requires around 5 - 10 seconds. However some like the Somalia one are hard to check, so you could actually surprise your enemy when he find out that the wall work.
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30.05.2015 - 02:34
Great Stuff!

Thanks Clovis!
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01.12.2015 - 11:41
 Giap
Thz
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01.12.2015 - 13:27
Nice one Clovis, here's another hard/super hard one. GIF makes it look easy

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06.12.2015 - 16:57
Nice thread
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Wr1tt3n by The Tactician, 01.12.2015 at 13:27

Nice one Clovis, here's another hard/super hard one. GIF makes it look easy




Sorry for the delay, nice one

I might update this thread with theses examples... but wondering whenever I should make the whole guide GIF-based or not.
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23.01.2016 - 01:45
Thanks, you have been a great help!
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Wr1tt3n by Samurai, 23.01.2016 at 01:45

Thanks, you have been a great help!


holy shit
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