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Wr1tt3n by Guest, 14.09.2018 at 08:05

I mean like in that sense Anatolia should be handed over to Greece then xD

Anatolia was a long and irreversible process spanning many centuries, it's a sad conclusion but nothing can be done about it and it's understandable that at the time it happened it was nothing too unusual. Afrin happened this year when supposedly civilised countries have gotten over such behaviours.

Wr1tt3n by BLACKMETAL3199, 13.09.2018 at 12:19

i need to buy another pc and some other things but dolar is very expensive... pcs and stuffs like that come from usa...

Don't be sad, you should actually be quite thankful that Erdogan played cunt and tried to antagonize an unpredictible and blunt US President. Thanks to him your currency will be in decline or stabilize at the point you're at right now, which will mean Turkey will be either

a) Slut-Injected with shady Russian deals (nuclear plants as of now) and massive amounts of Chinese investment that will bring you away from American-dependence which will ulteriorly benefit you.

b) Force to come to terms with Europe, forge a decent trade-deal, energy and overall political-economic pacts that will bring you back on track, as we currently need each other

c) Sink and have Erdogan removed xd


Personally, it's a pitty Turkey sank that fast

Wr1tt3n by Skanderbeg, 13.09.2018 at 13:07

Wr1tt3n by BLACKMETAL3199, 13.09.2018 at 12:39

no actually every pc gpu cpu and others are x2 more expensive now

Do what i do then; check the prices in neighboring countries, one can probably have cheaper stuff you want, then try to order (check for shipment cost), or give money to some trucker to buy it for you (we all have such friend) when he's driving that route.

Be aware that second option is illegal according to neoliberal laws, but still we deserve such freedom for commodities so go ahead if you're not afraid (usually police doesn't address such petty contraband).

How can it be illegal to ask another friend or person to buy any commodity for us that does not require a title of ownership? like a car, or a house? In what world do you even live XD

Wr1tt3n by Ruse, 13.09.2018 at 23:36

there is no fucking problem in turkey with current currency because even with those economical attacks erdogan is standing strong against imperialists but people like tengri just makes the things worse instead of helping. there is a famous turkish site called eksisozluk where most of turkish educated people write their thoughts. in this place you can easly see those wannabe western guys always trash talking on turkey and wants to go to europe or usa. also the site has very shameful topics like 'how to fuck off from turkey'. i dont have a problem with people being mad at not able to buy western stuffs like iphone, stronk computer, bmw mercedes etc. but they think accepting imperialist domination will solve all the problems thats the IRONY. the problem is how did these people become slave dogs of imperialists. people in turkey totally become slaves of imperialists even most of erdogan supporter companies dont use domestic currency. first of all turkey needs to solve her problems with imperialist slaves then leave nato and other imperialist things.

LONG LIVE PUTIN.

Someone melt a fuse..If you wish to run from "Imperialism" how about fortifying your national industries and strategic sectors and impose moderate protectionism like South Korea and ASEAN countries did back in the 50's and 60's in their wave of industrialization?

Other than that, you shouldn't blame on others what the policies of your (sovereign) country were, afterall, Turkey basically tried to pull-off their diplomatic "influence", acting with their "back-covered" by new friends and try conflict at first with the EU & Germany and didn't get much, instead blackmailing on the refugee crisis, and then tried poking an unpredictible and blunt US President and failed badly. Now you're just suffering from the incompetence of your Government. But as I said, not everything is bad, you can now re-think your economy and Turkey's standing in the world, or be condemned to recession, because Erdogan will just use the "Western Conspiracy card" to ride the waves of propaganda and reinforce needless power.

Wr1tt3n by Zephyrusu, 13.09.2018 at 14:56

Turkey brought this upon themselves by being the first ones to backstab those that considered them allies and side with those it had been granted assistance to defend against.

Turkey is not criticized for making deals with Iran, Russia and China. It is criticized for invading another nation for no reason other than because they felt like it, censoring everything its government doesn't like hearing (Wikipedia and fucking Minecraft are such great threats to social security, and let's not talk about how much screentime the political opposition gets on TV), discriminating against its ethnic minorities for decades if not centuries, denying proven historical facts about crimes they've committed, failing to maintain a democratic system and falling under the regime of a tyrant, and constantly provoking its neighbours with nationalistic bravado. The Greeks of Smyrna and Pontus, the Armenians and the Assyrians paid dearly (with their homes if they were lucky, with their lives if they were unlucky) so that Kemal can turn Turkey into a modern, progressive state, and the Turks of today spit on his legacy, though to be fair it's far from all of them as Erdogan's government does not truly hold a majority of votes regardless of what he'd like you to believe. I can only hope that the Turks will not fall sway to Erdogan's populist propaganda speeches and truly realize what they've been dragged into, so that they can crawl themselves out while they still have time.

I subscribe this in full.

Wr1tt3n by Ruse, 13.09.2018 at 23:44

Wr1tt3n by Guest, 13.09.2018 at 06:57

Justice for all the genocides, Mehmet : )

says the descendant of nazis.

Calling-out others on their nation's past history of nation-wide and committed war-crimes does not erase the long-history of athrocities and genocides committed by the Turkish and Ottoman State against the Armenians and other minorites (infact, there's currently an openly-declared hunt on the Kurds, labelled collectively as terrorists. It hurts less if you accept it, and stops you from further looking douchy.

Wr1tt3n by Al Fappino, 14.09.2018 at 16:57

How can it be illegal to ask another friend or person to buy any commodity for us that does not require a title of ownership? like a car, or a house? In what world do you even live XD

You and Zephyrusu obviously didn't understand what we were talking, so no point replying about that.

About Turkey and you supporting Zeph, no you're both wrong. West doesn't care for Turkish invasions as Turkey is part of NATO - western alliance, west doesn't give a damn about human life, rights or desires, it is cringey to see you still believe in that. Turkey is punished for showing free will to decide with whom to trade (Duofeng from China, S-400 from Russia, Turkish Stream with Russia, gold with Iran etc) - all Western enemies of World Order. West wants all members in line with current narrative as minions (or troops if you like), a unified front against rogue nations (rogue from western world order).

Sigh... to think Turkey is punished for something their allies are doing for decades, and where both cooperated in multiple occasions

Wr1tt3n by Skanderbeg, 14.09.2018 at 17:50

Wr1tt3n by Al Fappino, 14.09.2018 at 16:57

How can it be illegal to ask another friend or person to buy any commodity for us that does not require a title of ownership? like a car, or a house? In what world do you even live XD

You and Zephyrusu obviously didn't understand what we were talking, so no point replying about that.

About Turkey and you supporting Zeph, no you're both wrong. West doesn't care for Turkish invasions as Turkey is part of NATO - western alliance, west doesn't give a damn about human life, rights or desires, it is cringey to see you still believe in that. Turkey is punished for showing free will to decide with whom to trade (Duofeng from China, S-400 from Russia, Turkish Stream with Russia, gold with Iran etc) - all Western enemies of World Order. West wants all members in line with current narrative as minions (or troops if you like), a unified front against rogue nations (rogue from western world order).

Sigh... to think Turkey is punished for something their allies are doing for decades, and where both cooperated in multiple occasions

I was writing an actual, concrete, based and knowledgeful response to your communistic bias and my pc crashed for some reason. So I cba to actually try to idk, educate you or elucidate you that there's a world beyond the Red Square and Soviet distopias that plagued this world, but I've started to realize it really is pointless. You're too brainwashed, too biased and frankly too ignorantistic or close-minded to even start having that baseline-respect when debating (some) stuff, Lavrentiy Beria.

You must have been a journalist for Pravda lol

Wr1tt3n by Al Fappino, 16.09.2018 at 15:58

Wr1tt3n by Skanderbeg, 14.09.2018 at 17:50

Wr1tt3n by Al Fappino, 14.09.2018 at 16:57

How can it be illegal to ask another friend or person to buy any commodity for us that does not require a title of ownership? like a car, or a house? In what world do you even live XD

You and Zephyrusu obviously didn't understand what we were talking, so no point replying about that.

About Turkey and you supporting Zeph, no you're both wrong. West doesn't care for Turkish invasions as Turkey is part of NATO - western alliance, west doesn't give a damn about human life, rights or desires, it is cringey to see you still believe in that. Turkey is punished for showing free will to decide with whom to trade (Duofeng from China, S-400 from Russia, Turkish Stream with Russia, gold with Iran etc) - all Western enemies of World Order. West wants all members in line with current narrative as minions (or troops if you like), a unified front against rogue nations (rogue from western world order).

Sigh... to think Turkey is punished for something their allies are doing for decades, and where both cooperated in multiple occasions

I was writing an actual, concrete, based and knowledgeful response to your communistic bias and my pc crashed for some reason. So I cba to actually try to idk, educate you or elucidate you that there's a world beyond the Red Square and Soviet distopias that plagued this world, but I've started to realize it really is pointless. You're too brainwashed, too biased and frankly too ignorantistic or close-minded to even start having that baseline-respect when debating (some) stuff, Lavrentiy Beria.

You must have been a journalist for Pravda lol

Funny to see Fapino calling my view communistic propaganda while his is totally not western-biased neoliberalistic

Wr1tt3n by Zephyrusu, 14.09.2018 at 13:31

Wr1tt3n by Guest, 14.09.2018 at 08:05

I mean like in that sense Anatolia should be handed over to Greece then xD

Anatolia was a long and irreversible process spanning many centuries, it's a sad conclusion but nothing can be done about it and it's understandable that at the time it happened it was nothing too unusual. Afrin happened this year when supposedly civilised countries have gotten over such behaviours.

Stop crying about Afrin save your tears for east of Euphrates.

Wr1tt3n by Skanderbeg, 27.09.2018 at 14:26

Funny to see Fapino calling my view communistic propaganda while his is totally not western-biased neoliberalistic

There's no western-bias in what I've said, and there's certainly no neoliberalistic thought in my words, as I'm not one myself. You keep on spitting the same punchline words for months and years now, without further developing your line of thought or the maturity and logic of your arguments. The bias there can possibly be on this discussion and others is your stigma for everything that's foreign and the over-salutation of your own culture, in opposition to others.

Wr1tt3n by Al Fappino, 30.09.2018 at 09:21

There's no western-bias in what I've said, and there's certainly no neoliberalistic thought in my words, as I'm not one myself. You keep on spitting the same punchline words for months and years now, without further developing your line of thought or the maturity and logic of your arguments. The bias there can possibly be on this discussion and others is your stigma for everything that's foreign and the over-salutation of your own culture, in opposition to others.

Still funny. As i am mature enough to not change or 'develop' my line of thought as it is already very-well established years ago during development period of life. Unlike yours which still have to be developed as you are still a child who just entered another sphere of life (ie politics, history, debate).

I don't know what's worse: the opinion you hold that you have to change from time to time thus constantly changing your point of view or the fact that westerners are thinking they are tolerant and emancipated while holding negative views about easterners and being oppressed by their governments, while invading east.

Speaking about over-salutation and bias

I am sadder than all of you bitches.

Wr1tt3n by Mussolini1812, 27.09.2018 at 16:11

Stop crying about Afrin save your tears for east of Euphrates.

If Afrin is any indicator, taking over Rojava would take a few years at the very least.

Wr1tt3n by Zephyrusu, 30.09.2018 at 13:37

Wr1tt3n by Mussolini1812, 27.09.2018 at 16:11

Stop crying about Afrin save your tears for east of Euphrates.

If Afrin is any indicator, taking over Rojava would take a few years at the very least.

max 6 month with SAA

Wr1tt3n by Zephyrusu, 30.09.2018 at 13:37

Wr1tt3n by Mussolini1812, 27.09.2018 at 16:11

Stop crying about Afrin save your tears for east of Euphrates.

If Afrin is any indicator, taking over Rojava would take a few years at the very least.