30.09.2014 - 16:47
Ebola is now in the USA. Patient in dallas came from Liberia Sept 19.. Diagnosed in Dallas hospital today.. breaking news! http://www.cnn.com/
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30.09.2014 - 17:04
Why people who went to Ebola infected areas were allowed back into the country is beyond me
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30.09.2014 - 17:05
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/30/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Immigration yet again bringing pain and suffering. Can anyone a net positive gain from Liberian Immigration for the US citizen? Especially when a disease that kills 75% of those it infects is dominating that country? Worst still, it has hit Dallas. Texans don't deserve this. Californians and North East Coastals certainly do. A good biblical plague might teach them a thing or two.
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30.09.2014 - 17:07
I live on the North East Coast =(
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30.09.2014 - 17:18
me too
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30.09.2014 - 17:34
me three. now im worried tht plague is here becuase i heard someone sneeze
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30.09.2014 - 17:35
i know what you mean
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30.09.2014 - 17:35
Ask me if i care. Go on ask me
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30.09.2014 - 17:38
>Implying the majority of the NE isn't full of the worst types of people that modern western society creates >implying you dont want ebola to purge the NE of its decadence
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30.09.2014 - 17:49
No, I agree completely that the Northeast US is full of awful people, leftists, communists, etc. Ebola purging it would be quite nice, just have a feeling I wouldn't survive it considering I go to school in the middle of the second largest city up here
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30.09.2014 - 18:11
I didn't make this thread so people can wish death upon their own. I suggest you stop.
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30.09.2014 - 18:20
No ones wishing death, merely discussing who we would prefer it hit if it were to occur. Death wouldn't occur if you didn't let these people into your country so don't go claiming the moral high ground. We want to close the borders, preventing this. People like you want them open. How is it our fault nature doesn't give a fuck about your shitty hippie ideals?
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30.09.2014 - 18:33
Only a matter of time before Tito comes on and says that this event happened because the CIA created ebola and it escaped from their laboratory and all Americans should get infected and die. Russia will come and "save" us and make the world great and lalalalaala and before he says that here's what I will say to him now and what I will say to him afterwards: Go USA we got this !
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30.09.2014 - 18:48
immigration is the greatest possible boost for a country. USA: allowed nearly everyone to move in for about 200 years, won nearly every war it was ever in, expanded on to five times its original size and became the most advanced country at its climax Rome: allowed anyone to immigrate under the condition to become a roman. that made it the most advanced country in the ancient world except for china maybe, but that us debatable
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Death1812 4cc0unt d3l3t3d |
30.09.2014 - 18:51 Death1812 4cc0unt d3l3t3d
CIA created ebola
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30.09.2014 - 19:08
It only allowed Europeans of good character. Good character meant a lot of things. Until 1964, it was a nation which openly declared that it was a nation for White peoples. Immigration was also minor, small increments of Europeans. Post 1964, these numbers quadrupled, then quintupled, all from the Third World, not Europe. that is the year, these social problems began rapidly increasing.
Because it was White. It only imported whites, it catered to whites and was founded, for and by whites. Not just any whites but WASPs.
It also had free association which meant you could buy and sell from whoever you wanted. Citizenship was very, very hard to attain. You also forget this was a Fascist Empire where half the population were slaves. Rome didn't become powerful because it was 'multicultural.' Multiple cultures within the Empire were a by product of Roman power. There are many reasons, not shitty re writing of history.
Fascism made it advanced. Europeans made it advanced. North Africa at the time was made up of European peoples. 'Multiculturalism' is actually what killed Rome when it was having to juggle around all these populations. As this Empire became more fragile, each crisis brought it closer and closer to failure. This created stagnation and uprisings. When Germanics were told to attack their own tribes for Rome, they turned on their Roman rulers. What do you think is going to happen when the US government tells Hispanic soldiers to attack rioting Hispanic communities? As usual, two cases of Immigration policy are brought up. One case is a strictly White Nationalist, Free associating society which only imported other White people. The other is a dictatorial Fascist Empire where half the population were slaves and the other half freely associated. Neither of these examples had 'mass immigration.' Per capita, they had very minor immigration. They had free association and they didn't have welfare. They incentivised naturalisation heavily and demanded obedience to the dominant culture and law. There was also no universal suffrage in either during their golden years. Immigration, especially from the third world, has hurt white majority nations. There is no argument against this. None. Bringing up ancient history in a COMPLETELY different setting to justify modern mass immigration to a nation state is out of context and utterly naive. There isn't a comparison, not in the slightest. Come back with evidence of a net positive gain to the citizen from mass third world immigration. Protip- You wont find any.
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30.09.2014 - 19:23
Death don't fall for his lies!!
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30.09.2014 - 19:43
maybe the CIA made a time machine to go back in time to cause WWII to create OSS to create CIA. #MindBlown
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30.09.2014 - 20:20
just shut up, retard, you're living in a parallel universe. have you ever seen that map? its immigration too, and its what every civilisation was built on really, rome did only come to existance by the immigrants that joined it after it was founded. without, the city never would've had 1 000 000 inhabitants. quotes: http://www.latimes.com/la-oe-murphy16jun16-story.html was the world's most successful multiethnic state until the US — and history's longest lasting one, bar none. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/martial9-3.asp What race is so distant from us, what race is so barbarous, O Caesar, that from it no spectator is present in your city! The cultivator of Rhodope [in Thrace] is here from Haemus, sacred to Orpheus. The Scythian who drinks the blood of his horses is here; he, too, who quaffs the waters of the Nile nearest their springing; and he also whose shore is laved by the most distant ocean. The Arabian has hastened hither; the Sabaeans have hastened; and here the Cilicians have anointed themselves with their own native perfume. Here come the Sicambrians with their hair all twisted into a knot, and here the frizzled Ethiopians. Yet though their speech is all so different, they all speak together hailing you, O Emperor, as the true father of your country. /quotes dude, stop trashtalking, rome never had closed borders, never in 1000 years
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30.09.2014 - 21:53
look on the bright side, you will die together
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30.09.2014 - 23:48
Thank goodness it's in Texas, that shitty state needs to secede already.
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01.10.2014 - 00:41 Black Shark 4cc0unt d3l3t3d >a gun-loving state >shitty
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01.10.2014 - 05:18
Again this ENTIRE post is now going even further back. You are now using ancient migration from tens of thousands of years ago to justify modern mass immigration. Your comparison between today and Rome and America was bad. This comparison is even worse. There is NO similarity. You are a fucking child by comparing the movements of proto humans to the mass immigration of violent, unproductive tribal people into Nations States that they have no intention of acclimatizing to. I have already spoken about Rome. I refuse to debate such a childish comparison. You are using emotional arguments without substance.
When did I say it closed its borders? Can't you read what I said. I specified citizenship was hard to attain. You could move to Rome but you couldn't have any political power. The reason Rome fell was BECAUSE of its Multi ethnic communities. As was already explained to you. So let me get this straight. You want to be like Rome. You want a Fascist Empire ruled by a Dictatorial Emperor where half the people are slaves and we go on continual expansion into new territories. We have a free association, meaning we can refuse sale, employment, land to whoever we please, we execute criminals for the most minor of crimes and immigrants have zero political power for generations, with the possible prospect of being enslaved if they do break any laws. As fun as that sounds, that's a pretty gigantic fucking step away from pouring third world immigrants into social democratic 21st century progressive, federalised nation state. The fact YOU cannot understand why this comparison is so idiotic shows how utterly naive you are. This is not an argument, this is not a clinical scientific comparison of different social policies. The social policies of Rome and the modern social democratic state are so far apart that no comparison can be made. Honestly, you keep doing it. You make a comparison to but fail to see what your immigration policy would demand.
Again, emotional drivel of no substance in the modern age. You failed to answer my questions again. I will repeat them. I expect answers. If you do not answer, everyone here, including I will assume you have conceded the argument.
Answer this, without the use of emotion and under the conditions of a modern social democratic state. The working peoples of these white majority nations have not benefited from post 1964 immigration. At all. You are here to justify this policy. You claim it has had a positive impact, it is your task to show how this policy has had a net positive gain to these countries. Has it provided better security? Are people more financially secure? Do they have great access to liberties? Is cost of living higher? Are wages lower? Do they own more or less land? Do they have replacement level birth rates? All of these are in the negative. Crime SKYROCKETED post 60s mass immigration. So much so that in the late 80s/early 90s they increased incarceration rates by 700%. Sure violent crime dropped but now these countries have the highest prison populations in the world. Despite this, violent crime is increasing yet again and who are the majority of the victims per capita? White People. Do not use ancient migrations of zero notable comparison to the mass immigration of third worlders into white western majority states post 1964. You must justify this policy. Prove there has been a net positive gain to the white majority citizenship. If immigration is so good, this should be an easy task. (You are not allowed to use emotional arguments, nor the use of guilt like colonialism. You must speak, specifically, from the interests of the white citizens of these white majority western nations, not from the perspective of the third world immigrants. Justify your policy)
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01.10.2014 - 06:51
The day immigrants steal and beat up Tik-Tok will be the greatest day of my life.
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01.10.2014 - 06:59
you are just too ignorant for me to debate with you one more thing: Lagos, Nigeria
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01.10.2014 - 08:38
That is irrelevant to the conversation between you and tik-tok, plz don't make claims if you can't defend them or back properly.
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01.10.2014 - 08:50
There is speculation that there is a 2nd Dallas Ebola patient that contracted from the first. It begins.
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01.10.2014 - 11:15
It was a question. You made a claim that Immigration is beneficial. The State and Government represents its citizens. No one else. You were tasked with jusutifying the social policy of mass immigration from the third world and how it benefited the citizens of white majority nation states. As I said, if you are not going to justify this policy with proper data proving a net gain, then we will all assume you are conceding the point and agree or are unable to disprove the obvious reality which is that mass third world immigration doesn't benefit white majority nation state citizens, in actual fact, it harms them. Refusing to debate someone and calling them ignorant is usually a self reflective sign of someones own ignorance. You are unable to back up your emotional driven view. So you back down.
This isn't relevant. At what point did I say other races, cultures and peoples are not capable of building things or trading? Being against third world immigration doesn't mean we hate other people. We simply prefer our own and want to seek the interests of our own. Do you think Nigerians aren't the same? Do you think Nigerians want mass immigration? Even from other parts of Africa? They have their own problems to deal with. How do you think the Senegalese feel about East Asian immigration? They aren't happy about it at all. Also, these pictures of Laos are deceptive. Showing the city centre is very disingenuous. Outside that city center, it is a sea of ghettos. This picture being a good example. On the right, the city centre with its larger capital buildings. On the left, the reality of an overpopulated poverty stricken city. Which all look like this. Other than having a massive birth rate or unsustainable proportions creating mass deprivation. Lagos suffers from another third world problem. Cutbacks and bad building measures. Many of these buildings in Lagos are poorly designed, lack proper materials and regularly collapse. 67 South Africans dead in Lagos building collapse https://ph.news.yahoo.com/67-south-africans-dead-lagos-building-collapse-231209092.html?.tsrc=globe Building Collapse - Corruption At Work http://www.nigeriaintel.com/2013/09/06/building-collapse-corruption-at-work/ The issue is so problematic that government is intervening. Here is an example. Lagos Tightens Building Control, Demands Insurance Certificate http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnewsthread1/29604/1/ I know this because I have a Nigerian friend who has to visit family there every year. He hates it and says each visit is likely going to kill him. Its a dangerous place. I also care about the world, it's in my interest to know what is going on. Unlike you, who lives in a haze of easy information promoted by the media, I'm a curious individual. Posting a deceptive pic as a rebuttal to asking you to justify third world immigration is not an argument. We can all assume you have no argument and that my point still remains concrete. Thank you for playing.
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02.10.2014 - 01:35
Is assimilation not a product of multiculturalism? It's all relative, pluralism usually results in semi apartheid; there is always going to be a ruling class. Also religious minorities =/= ethnic minorities. Rome really was quite multicultural and it shows this seeing as most of its legions used to conquer were foreigners willing to die for Rome. Religion, however, is a completely different subject and all cultures converted to Christianity and were suppressed for the risk they presented, not due to their ethnicity. Same goes for the Jews, though they treated them alright even if you think of it from that perspective. In regards to ebola in USA, good luck ebola-chan!
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