Cw/3v3/Competitive Alternitive

Introducing Hells Eu+ 1968

Now i know change is a dificult thing and not everyone will like everything i did in the map, but im doing my best to give everyone the best possible alternitive to the same map we have been using for 5 years to play competitive matches in, lets be honest its getting stagnent and we could use a nice change and im hoping i can help with this map :3. Leave me feed back about your experiences in the map, give me suggestions and as much input as you can so i can make the most realistically balanced map possible for all of you to enjoy, and if you cant find the map by name type in HellR. and youll find it, Play the shit out of this if you support this project. More plays more research better outcomes. Or it can die off its up to you guys, i can only provide the tools to a better future i cant make you use them.

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All i can say is the ports at the top of north africa are abit op, only problem with the map! Would say remove NA!

You literally killed Germany.

Wr1tt3n by Usernames, 24.05.2015 at 17:39

All i can say is the ports at the top of north africa are abit op, only problem with the map! Would say remove NA!

i was thinking the same thing i think i may nerf income or units or a little of both.

When i see an altered europe i literally feel no motivation to play it. We need a new layout, a fresh scene.

But did you actually think through every change you made? Germany has been eliminated as a geographic starting country forcing somebody to go Italy because a UK/Spain or a UK/France 2v1 would be OP.

Ukraine has more cities and reinforcements which will make the inital cost more expensive. You added more cities to RC which will mean more infantry to kill in order to obtain country bonus which is critical to Ukraine's income.

No more Poland pick because inital cost would be to high. Can't spam GW marines or DS helis. Also fucks up Ukraine's expansion because the units are most likely infantry now.

Taking away one of Italy's upper cities is also damaging to Italy's attack power over France. 8 inf lost by turn 4 and 4 more inf every 4 turns after that could attack paris.

Where Serbia was now probably has inf in it. Which will limit Turk's expansion.

Changing the borders and cities won't help in the long run. People will just adjust. Starting from scratch will a map with all new geographical locations of cities and countries will be the best new competitive map in the long run. But then again, lets think about Chess. Same board, same pieces, lots of similar opening moves. Yet it still has not changed.

Wr1tt3n by Fockmeeard, 24.05.2015 at 18:02

But did you actually think through every change you made? Germany has been eliminated as a geographic starting country forcing somebody to go Italy because a UK/Spain or a UK/France 2v1 would be OP.

Ukraine has more cities and reinforcements which will make the inital cost more expensive. You added more cities to RC which will mean more infantry to kill in order to obtain country bonus which is critical to Ukraine's income.

No more Poland pick because inital cost would be to high. Can't spam GW marines or DS helis. Also fucks up Ukraine's expansion because the units are most likely infantry now.

Taking away one of Italy's upper cities is also damaging to Italy's attack power over France. 8 inf lost by turn 4 and 4 more inf every 4 turns after that could attack paris.

Where Serbia was now probably has inf in it. Which will limit Turk's expansion.

Changing the borders and cities won't help in the long run. People will just adjust. Starting from scratch will a map with all new geographical locations of cities and countries will be the best new competitive map in the long run. But then again, lets think about Chess. Same board, same pieces, lots of similar opening moves. Yet it still has not changed.

Poland was militarized as soviet bunker in said era so it has a signifigant buff mking it a viable pick over fracture germany as well as sweden was buffed making either a uk contender.

Also everyone seems to be looking at this from a standpoint of what they would do in a typical 3v3, the point of this is to come up with new sstrategies and expansions, i purpously nerfed eastern countries, as to make a more strategically viable arena of war, both RC and egypt can fight both Ukr and turkey.

Suport map

YUGOSLAVIA,support this !

Ok, I played RA Yugoslavia. Played correctly (not failing Rome on turn 1 and maybe some others as well... XD) it can be pretty much strong, I like it! Yugoslavia + Poland can counter Spain + UK in my opinion! Then you add Turkey, Egypt or whatever that you want and you have a nice game for yourself XD

For me it's like a new playground, I'm still not able to tell what could the best picks be nor the most suitable strategies for each case so... just go ahead, try it and then try become the best as in normal Eu+ has usually happened

It looks good. I will play your map when the time is right.

Cheers

I dont play alot of e+
but whatever the case i do appreciate and support new maps and map makers-
people are critical for the wrong reasons and are not objective-
alot of players have issues with hating their mothers etc and it clouds their judgment-
The haters gona Hate etc-
Even if a map is awesome it wont get that many fans of it-
But i support the pursuit of an awesome E+ Map-
Some projects are stepping stones to greatness not realised at the time-
So Hell yeah man, kick some ass-
ill play your map soon-
My dog loves me.

Wr1tt3n by Apeman, 24.05.2015 at 19:01

I dont play alot of e+
but whatever the case i do appreciate and support new maps and map makers-
people are critical for the wrong reasons and are not objective-
alot of players have issues with hating their mothers etc and it clouds their judgment-
The haters gona Hate etc-
Even if a map is awesome it wont get that many fans of it-
But i support the pursuit of an awesome E+ Map-
Some projects are stepping stones to greatness not realised at the time-
So Hell yeah man, kick some ass-
ill play your map soon-
My dog loves me.

My dog is also a cuddler

That france and that right side port i think will be needed but it still looks good

Good effort hellykins il be sure to play some 3vs on here and provide some more construtive feedback
i support the removal of africa from this map
and you canged UK capital back to london, urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Looks really fun; I will definitely try it out.

Wr1tt3n by Acquiesce, 24.05.2015 at 21:18

Where is hoacq map???

200% support. Hell dont get discouraged by negative comments. People dont understand that a new map is new because poland has changed or ukr has changed. If they would be the same then whats the point of calling it new?
Also they scared the might suck.
Map needs balance i agree , lmk if i can help out

Wr1tt3n by Erdit, 24.05.2015 at 23:01

200% support. Hell dont get discouraged by negative comments. People dont understand that a new map is new because poland has changed or ukr has changed. If they would be the same then whats the point of calling it new?
Also they scared the might suck.
Map needs balance i agree , lmk if i can help out

The best way to help out is for people to play and give me feed back of there experiences and things they woukd like to see and thanks mate.

Wr1tt3n by Erdit, 24.05.2015 at 23:01

200% support. Hell dont get discouraged by negative comments. People dont understand that a new map is new because poland has changed or ukr has changed. If they would be the same then whats the point of calling it new?
Also they scared the might suck.
Map needs balance i agree , lmk if i can help out

Also syndi cw us on this and it worked great they most definitely did not suck was good fight!

Wr1tt3n by Fockmeeard, 24.05.2015 at 18:02

But did you actually think through every change you made? Germany has been eliminated as a geographic starting country forcing somebody to go Italy because a UK/Spain or a UK/France 2v1 would be OP.

Ukraine has more cities and reinforcements which will make the inital cost more expensive. You added more cities to RC which will mean more infantry to kill in order to obtain country bonus which is critical to Ukraine's income.

No more Poland pick because inital cost would be to high. Can't spam GW marines or DS helis. Also fucks up Ukraine's expansion because the units are most likely infantry now.

Taking away one of Italy's upper cities is also damaging to Italy's attack power over France. 8 inf lost by turn 4 and 4 more inf every 4 turns after that could attack paris.

Where Serbia was now probably has inf in it. Which will limit Turk's expansion.

Changing the borders and cities won't help in the long run. People will just adjust. Starting from scratch will a map with all new geographical locations of cities and countries will be the best new competitive map in the long run. But then again, lets think about Chess. Same board, same pieces, lots of similar opening moves. Yet it still has not changed.

Sweden, poland, italy, yugo are all viable west fighters, the map does a better job of blending combat making it so one op east player can't win the whole damn game alone, poland is no longer a ds or gw country correct, it's the German equivalent of normal 3v3 but alot cheaper, As for east it's changed alot , the typical 3v3 expansion for ukraine is obselete, all of russia is richer with me cities but only rc has infs, you might not be able to get every country like you can in normal 3v3 but full rc and rs is the same equivalent of power, same with turkey it has 5 less reins and a infantry yugo making it much harder to get exactly the same thing as normal 3v3 turkey. I calculated every change I made I truly did, because I wanted to make something new but fimiliare enough it would not scare you guys away. Why don't you do me a favor and put our fued to the side and just test map for yourself before you make an assumption just from a forum post that does not show the new Scandinavia or middle east/egypt.

Amazing

Caucasus too op

Zvezda ,Srbija nikad JUGOSLAVIJA !

Turkey is OPer than the regular one :O

Wr1tt3n by I_Hate_You_All, 25.05.2015 at 15:50

Turkey is OPer than the regular one :O

not if someobdoy happend to pick yugoslavia

Wr1tt3n by Tirpitz406, 25.05.2015 at 15:54

Wr1tt3n by I_Hate_You_All, 25.05.2015 at 15:50

Turkey is OPer than the regular one :O

not if someobdoy happend to pick yugoslavia

caucasus is really op