Why do clans fail?

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P0st3d by Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 - 20:15

I feel like there has never been a dicussion for this, but many people probably wonder, why do new clans fail? And what does it take for a new clan to strive?

Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making

Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.

The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.

The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.

By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.

Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.

I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.

Aston Martin Elite Slayers P0sts: 31	21.03.2015 - 13:59 Aston Martin Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies ---- Power, Beauty, Soul. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	21.03.2015 - 20:12 Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Aston Martin, 21.03.2015 at 13:59 Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD ss or lies Agreed! Show me ss? L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	21.03.2015 - 20:13 Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 11:39 Oh,you guys arent inactive,but mou told me today that you are dead xD L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Stryko 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	+3 21.03.2015 - 20:41 Stryko 4cc0unt d3l3t3d You just need members who can take all the Banter. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Soldier001 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	+1 22.03.2015 - 04:54 Soldier001 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Croat Paradox P0sts: 7250 Fr0m: Cr04t1a	22.03.2015 - 04:56 Croat Wr1tt3n by Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Mauzer Panteri Mortal Kombat P0sts: 1811 Fr0m: S3rb14	+7 22.03.2015 - 15:44 Mauzer Panteri Cuz noobs. ---- http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=14714&topicsearch=&page= L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	+1 22.03.2015 - 16:21 Gonzo. 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Wr1tt3n by Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax Good question . That would be a big NO. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Croat Paradox P0sts: 7250 Fr0m: Cr04t1a	22.03.2015 - 19:50 Croat Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 22.03.2015 at 17:13 Thanks for all the clan's hate.I won't ask you Croat,i know the answer. Everything you know is relative cause knowledge wants to be based on truth, but there is no absolute truth, so everything you know is means nothing to me. Btw, nice rank up ax ax axax axaxaxax ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Your Mother Illyria P0sts: 1274 Fr0m: B3l4rus	22.03.2015 - 20:04 Your Mother Wr1tt3n by Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Death1812 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	22.03.2015 - 20:06 Death1812 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Kaliraa zizonists P0sts: 207	+6 22.03.2015 - 21:01 Kaliraa It's because people take the game too seriously, and treat it like a job, instead of a hobby, caring too much about mistakes. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
KUNG PAO evoL P0sts: 362 Fr0m: USA	23.03.2015 - 08:58 KUNG PAO Clans fail because artism ---- "evoL is that place you go to to find yourself and then ditch when you're pro and want to hang out with the other players we made" - Sasori L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Sixstars Dalmati P0sts: 316 Fr0m: N0rw4y	23.03.2015 - 13:12 Sixstars What is happening with the thread! ---- Anything is possible for me as long as I set my mind to it. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Amsterdam Dead Rabbits P0sts: 1	23.03.2015 - 14:08 Amsterdam Wr1tt3n by Sixstars, 23.03.2015 at 13:12 What is happening with the thread! its going down the same road as bob did L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
cascaval P0sts: 239 Fr0m: R0m4n14	26.03.2015 - 21:08 cascaval Wr1tt3n by Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind ---- Moldova is Romania L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Exo-R 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	11.04.2015 - 03:06 Exo-R 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by cascaval, 26.03.2015 at 21:08 Wr1tt3n by Mr_Own_U, 18.03.2015 at 20:15 The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. #stateofmind nice to stole our name L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Legate Soldius 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	11.04.2015 - 04:52 Legate Soldius 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Wr1tt3n by Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Netre The Immortals P0sts: 574 Fr0m: 1r3l4nd	15.04.2015 - 07:18 Netre Wr1tt3n by KUNG PAO, 23.03.2015 at 08:58 Clans fail because artism Artism? surely being creative would be beneficial to a coalition xd ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
chill Illyria P0sts: 966 Fr0m: 1r3l4nd	+1 15.04.2015 - 14:33 chill Wr1tt3n by Mauzer Panteri, 22.03.2015 at 15:44 Cuz noobs. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
(deleted) 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	15.04.2015 - 19:05 (deleted) 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Guest, 11.04.2015 at 04:52 Wr1tt3n by Croat, 22.03.2015 at 04:56 Wr1tt3n by Guest, 22.03.2015 at 04:54 Wr1tt3n by ArminyMouse, 21.03.2015 at 10:59 Ti stvarno pokazujes na kojem si stepenu sad XD remove narb andertes, wanna be commie Is there anyone who likes Pavle? (expect Tito) Xa. Axxax tito doesn't like pavle anymore L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Mobster (M0d) Paradox P0sts: 717 Fr0m: Turk3y	16.04.2015 - 15:04 Mobster (M0d) Pars died? just passive for some days. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
(deleted) 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	16.04.2015 - 17:21 (deleted) 4cc0unt d3l3t3d SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Soldier001 4cc0unt d3l3t3d	+1 16.04.2015 - 17:25 Soldier001 4cc0unt d3l3t3d Wr1tt3n by Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Google Shadow Aces P0sts: 2705 Fr0m: USA	16.04.2015 - 22:24 Google Wr1tt3n by Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Wr1tt3n by Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose all cws ---- Helpful Guides L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
1GodofWar1 ENIGMA P0sts: 2779 Fr0m: USA	05.05.2015 - 16:04 1GodofWar1 Wr1tt3n by Guest, 16.04.2015 at 17:25 Wr1tt3n by Kromn, 16.04.2015 at 17:21 SA will never die bcs of trolls that hold that active.....(soldz,crey,me......) you are only 2 weeks here and we are starting to loose cws XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAAXAXAX ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Helly Sons of Mars P0sts: 5389 Fr0m: USA	+1 09.05.2015 - 07:00 Helly I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. ---- We are not the same- I am a Martian. L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Phoenix Shadow Aces P0sts: 2581 Fr0m: UK	27.05.2015 - 15:43 Phoenix Wr1tt3n by Helly, 09.05.2015 at 07:00 I belive clans fail mostly because you throw complete strangers at each other and they pretend to like each other for a while then get bored and look for people they like better. But sometimes brotherhood is forged aND you get super groups. Hell knows ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
Phoenix Shadow Aces P0sts: 2581 Fr0m: UK	26.08.2015 - 20:49 Phoenix I can tell you why they start to fail. The founders who made the clan in their vision go afk.... The vision goes afk with them and the leadership left starts wondering what they're supposed to do. Sooner or later that leadership starts to fall apart aswell because what they thought the clan was starts to mismatch with reality - they need their true leader (the founder) and you end up with all the derp players left hanging around, wondering when their leaders will come back. Only they've found other hobbies, interests, clans or w/e by that point. I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. ---- L04d1ng... L04d1ng...
chill Illyria P0sts: 966 Fr0m: 1r3l4nd	+3 26.08.2015 - 21:36 chill Wr1tt3n by Phoenix, 26.08.2015 at 20:49 I think SM should be careful now bonker is gone, we didn't see this shit coming to SA, it just happened. bonker has left sm over 100 times L04d1ng... L04d1ng...

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