General as a premium feature

Why have you done this???

It's exactly the oposite of what everyone asked for: Don't make AW pay2win...

It's an abomination that only your paying clients have the general and the whole of his advantages.

I bought most of the general upgrades and went to test them to see if this version was similar to the first and found that i dont have my general, I need premium subscription.

Please fix this

I subscribe for this but i dont think they will do something about it....

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:11

Please fix this

It's an easy fix really. Just buy premium

No, like i said i refuse pay2win

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:33

No, like i said i refuse pay2win

General is not that important.

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:11

Why have you done this???

Having Anit-Aircraft as an exclusive unit was no longer an option (because of the changed unit structure), General is the replacement. It's sufficiently enticing for people to consider buying the Exclusive weapons pack, and at the same time not absolutely crucial - you can easily do without a General.

Wtf worldgame for everyone, that sucks because of the non +100city option

Wr1tt3n by Ivan, 01.12.2012 at 08:28

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:11

Why have you done this???

Having Anit-Aircraft as an exclusive unit was no longer an option (because of the changed unit structure), General is the replacement. It's sufficiently enticing for people to consider buying the Exclusive weapons pack, and at the same time not absolutely crucial - you can easily do without a General.

Actually the general is very important, it is true that you can do without him but in a high level game, non-premium players get a huge nerf

Pay2win, nothing more

Btw i bought some upgrades and they dont appear neither on the list nor on the buyable upgrades

Qu0t3:

Playing without a general does have a huge impact.

100% truth, like it or not general is THE most valuable tool for high rank players

Wr1tt3n by Ivan, 01.12.2012 at 08:28

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:11

Why have you done this???

Having Anit-Aircraft as an exclusive unit was no longer an option (because of the changed unit structure), General is the replacement. It's sufficiently enticing for people to consider buying the Exclusive weapons pack, and at the same time not absolutely crucial - you can easily do without a General.

+1 Defence too all units
+1 attack to bombers and tank.

can do without? the general is a crucial unit.

Qu0t3:

Wr1tt3n by b0nker2, 01.12.2012 at 10:33

Playing without a general does have a huge impact.

100% truth, like it or not general is THE most valuable tool for high rank players

I am totally agree with thoose people above me.

Wr1tt3n by b0nker2, 01.12.2012 at 10:33

100% truth, like it or not general is THE most valuable tool for high rank players

What BS, I could be making an infantry unit as 99 defence and hence rendering all +1 defence boosts useless.
When the original set of units is no longer rigidly applicable (eg:custom units), then the set has to adapt accordingly.
I support Ivan/Amok/Dave.

Wr1tt3n by nonames, 01.12.2012 at 11:13

Wr1tt3n by Ivan, 01.12.2012 at 08:28

Wr1tt3n by blargh, 01.12.2012 at 07:11

Why have you done this???

Having Anit-Aircraft as an exclusive unit was no longer an option (because of the changed unit structure), General is the replacement. It's sufficiently enticing for people to consider buying the Exclusive weapons pack, and at the same time not absolutely crucial - you can easily do without a General.

+1 Defence too all units
+1 attack to bombers and tank.

can do without? the general is a crucial unit.

Oh...
Really crucial...

General helps a lot, it's a really big advantage for premium members.

TBH this is such bullshit i am useless without my general

Qu0t3:

Qu0t3:

What BS, I could be making an infantry unit as 99 defence and hence rendering all +1 defence boosts useless.
When the original set of units is no longer rigidly applicable (eg:custom units), then the set has to adapt accordingly.
I support Ivan/Amok/Dave.

Not everyone will be playing using custom maps, some people still will wish to play using old settings, for those that do retaining a competitive arena i.e a system they are accustomed to, is important. Not having a general under old settings, which tbh will still be for a while the most played game type gives premium players a distinct advantage.

Please remember that he introduction of Custom Maps is not designed to rid us of the old game, and reinvent the egg so to speak but to complement the game and give more to those that enjoy the creative and imaginative aspects.

You guys already have whole world game free.
and +100 cities + air craft.

You do not need the general.

Wr1tt3n by Tundy, 01.12.2012 at 14:16

You guys already have whole world game free.
and +100 cities + air craft.

You do not need the general.

+100 cities?

Wr1tt3n by Tundy, 01.12.2012 at 14:16

You guys already have whole world game free.
and +100 cities + air craft.

You do not need the general.

does that make us better players?? except the anti air which is only useful against bombers and it is not very good in cost/effect

whole world free??? loool the number of world games we had in the later version was enough, there was no need for that, they just gave it to us because of the custom maps

No general makes the game pay to win.

Wr1tt3n by b0nker2, 01.12.2012 at 13:48

Not everyone will be playing using custom maps, some people still will wish to play using old settings, for those that do retaining a competitive arena i.e a system they are accustomed to, is important.

What old settings? I could make a preset of default then change all the units stats and start a game with 99s ... Who would know?
Rules don't change people, people change the rules.

This really does need to be changed. Competitive play relies on the general a lot and without one a player is at a huge disadvantage.

Admins you shouldn't take things away from players when they used to have them for free, especially if it is something as crucial as the general is to competitive play. Just make it free and make something less game breaking a premium feature.

Umg free game how dare they have businees modelll

Wr1tt3n by yobobo, 01.12.2012 at 15:29

Umg free game how dare they have businees modelll

/thread

You know what I notice about this thread? Neither Ivan nor Amok have commented 1 time on this, while it's one of the most important ongoing topics since the start of AtWar

Guys, it's only a select number of players who are complaining about this, do you think ivan and amok care about an minority? Remember this game is a business and afterall it's like $3 for the general (weapons) Premium feature.

Wr1tt3n by Goblin, 03.12.2012 at 16:15

Wr1tt3n by Dbacks, 03.12.2012 at 15:55

You know what I notice about this thread? Neither Ivan nor Amok have commented 1 time on this, while it's one of the most important ongoing topics since the start of AtWar

actually there is a comment by Ivan above.

It's what they said exactly in the changes made, I could've read that there too. Since the comment Ivan made was responded throughout this whole topic I'd say they shouldn't stay out of this discussion

So what´s happening, are Generals going to be free for all?