I'm pleased to announce a new strategy called "Insurrection" is now available for a limited time!

Insurrection is based on an idea from Apocalypse (thank you sir!). This strategy gives powerful Militia (Ground Secondary Defense) units at the cost of more expensive transportation, -2 attack for all other units. I think it will make an interesting new way of playing low income areas of the map, that otherwise might be overlooked.

Insurrection will be available for 1 month, until March 6, 2019. So give it a try!




By the way, we're going to start introducing new strategies, upgrades, and units (including perhaps buildings) on a rotating basis. The goal is something new to try each month. Already I have heard so many good ideas from the community, but I don't want to add too much all at once. So we'll do this rotating system so we can try something different each month. Who knows, if something is really popular we might even add it permanently.




Strategy Update 2019 #2
Based on feedback since the last strategy update, I've decided to make the following updates to our existing strategies:

Change #1: Lucky Bastard (LB) de-nerf a little
  • Removed the +10 Cost for Militia only. (Personally I think it was fine with +10 cost across the board, but others thought it was too much... So I think this is the best compromise.)


Change #2: Desert Storm (DS) nerf 2.0
  • Put back the +1 capacity for Helicopters (Removing capacity made the strat useless for lower rank players who don't have the capacity upgrade... for high rank players the extra capacity doesn't make much difference anyway.)

  • -1 defense for Helicopters instead.


As always, try them out and let me know what you think. We might adjust other strats next time around.

Lastly, a reminder to scenario players -- if you are concerned about strategies effecting the balance of your scenario, don't forget there is a "disable strategies" option you can use when starting a new game.

Cheers!

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04.02.2019 - 15:43
 Agel
Wr1tt3n by sirivann, 04.02.2019 at 15:41

Good job you broke all the scenarios xD

Not really if mapmaker do his job making militia not buildable at least t2 onwards.
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04.02.2019 - 15:49
Wr1tt3n by Agel, 04.02.2019 at 15:43

Wr1tt3n by sirivann, 04.02.2019 at 15:41

Good job you broke all the scenarios xD

Not really if mapmaker do his job making militia not buildable at least t2 onwards.


thats under the idea that all mapmakers are still active which they arent , the current ones mostly have all their maps on standby till the editor shit is fixed while a few handfull like WD have some out which are good, which means a shitload of scenarios are now RIP xD.

Would be nice if their was a option to disable certain strats and not all that way most scenarios can still be played .
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04.02.2019 - 16:09
 Alexis (M0d)
Good to see that some variation is being applied, and that's a starting. Of course you won't get everyone happy... this might lead to future changes anyway. If scenarios are ruined, then tell your players picking that strat is forbidden, while it's gone or balanced. If we applied anything new with previous discussion it will take years to apply, just like LB and DS nerf, how many pages of posts there's already? Just let it happen.
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04.02.2019 - 16:13
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Nerf it by -1 attack.
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04.02.2019 - 16:14
Put back the 40 for milita. People don't realize that this is an EXPENSIVE strategy same as Sky Menace Desert Storm and Master of Stealth. It should not be played in lower income setting games. People are upset because they can't just RUSH turn 1 and have to actually expand and play the game. The people complaining don't know how to play anything besides Lucky Bastard.
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04.02.2019 - 17:00
Wr1tt3n by PleaseMe, 04.02.2019 at 16:14

Put back the 40 for milita. People don't realize that this is an EXPENSIVE strategy same as Sky Menace Desert Storm and Master of Stealth. It should not be played in lower income setting games. People are upset because they can't just RUSH turn 1 and have to actually expand and play the game. The people complaining don't know how to play anything besides Lucky Bastard.


You should give "people" more credit. And your reasoning is poor. Sm and ds are played on midrange starting fund settings and lb is more expensive in its current form than all those strats. Even sky menace.

My question is why can't "people" understand how significant it is to give the most cost efficient unit in the game that all strats acquire through expansion a 33% cost increase.
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04.02.2019 - 17:07
Wr1tt3n by Laochra, 04.02.2019 at 17:00

Wr1tt3n by PleaseMe, 04.02.2019 at 16:14




You should give "people" more credit. And your reasoning is poor. Sm and ds are played on midrange starting fund settings and lb is more expensive in its current form than all those strats. Even sky menace.

My question is why can't "people" understand how significant it is to give the most cost efficient unit in the game that all strats acquire through expansion a 33% cost increase.

Because that's how you get a VERY broken strategy. I understand the logic behind "if everyone can use it then it's okay". But once EVERYONE only uses that strat because it is superior to everything else then that is definitely when it needs a nerf.
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04.02.2019 - 17:16
That strategy feels terrible to play with. Essentially, i am just dragging militia around. I don't need to worry about income. Just take the next capital because I will get more cancerous units to expand with.
With the transports nerfed I can't even properly chain units. Every move becomes predictable.

This strategy dumbs gameplay completely down.
Worst of all I can't pick anything else if I don't want to get my ass kicked.
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04.02.2019 - 17:23
Wr1tt3n by Chess, 04.02.2019 at 17:16

That strategy feels terrible to play with. Essentially, i am just dragging militia around. I don't need to worry about income. Just take the next capital because I will get more cancerous units to expand with.
With the transports nerfed I can't even properly chain units. Every move becomes predictable.

This strategy dumbs gameplay completely down.
Worst of all I can't pick anything else if I don't want to get my ass kicked.

I think it has a similar concept to RA because all you do with RA is drag tanks around but maybe militia with 6 attack is super op me thinks.
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04.02.2019 - 19:23
It's cool that you are actually implementing these strats for these testing phases, as for this strategy I think it does remove all tactical thinking. Chess summed it up perfectly.
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04.02.2019 - 20:21
Actually, if you gave INSURRECTION militias's an extra doze of stealth, would make a good deal of a difference.. other than buffed stats and weaken all the others.. I maybe wrong, but I mean, most of those insurrectionists you see do pop up out of nowhere right?
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04.02.2019 - 22:30
Wr1tt3n by Killingforfun, 04.02.2019 at 20:21

Actually, if you gave INSURRECTION militias's an extra doze of stealth, would make a good deal of a difference.. other than buffed stats and weaken all the others.. I maybe wrong, but I mean, most of those insurrectionists you see do pop up out of nowhere right?

Jeez the spammable militias with 6 attack, 5 defense and PD inf range are bad enough. How about NO, please. Besides we have GW for that
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04.02.2019 - 22:39
Erm the strat is still op. slaughtered my gc ukr and ins vs ins is the most cancerous game i have ever seen.....

take it away or make some drastic changes....

4/5 only viable option in my opinion
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04.02.2019 - 23:08
Wr1tt3n by Jfreders., 04.02.2019 at 22:39

Erm the strat is still op. slaughtered my gc ukr and ins vs ins is the most cancerous game i have ever seen.....

take it away or make some drastic changes....

4/5 only viable option in my opinion

4/5 still seems really op for some games

I'd pay 40 cost for 4/4 units tbh

4/5 still feels too strong
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04.02.2019 - 23:14
Wr1tt3n by LukeTan, 04.02.2019 at 23:08

Wr1tt3n by Jfreders., 04.02.2019 at 22:39

Erm the strat is still op. slaughtered my gc ukr and ins vs ins is the most cancerous game i have ever seen.....

take it away or make some drastic changes....

4/5 only viable option in my opinion

4/5 still seems really op for some games

I'd pay 40 cost for 4/4 units tbh

4/5 still feels too strong


4/4 its useless
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05.02.2019 - 05:48
AT LAST WE HAV ONE
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05.02.2019 - 05:50
I support this strategy and you should ignore people complaining is the hour of insurrection
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05.02.2019 - 06:19
 The Tactician (M0d)
Awesome! can't wait to try everything out!
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05.02.2019 - 07:00
 Leaf
Haha, gud1.
L04d1ng...
06.02.2019 - 13:53
At first glance this looks like quite an uneven strategy. Most people will be spamming just militia when they use this strategy. Usually most strategies nerf some units and boost others. This one feels like half baked version of gw. If the point of this strategy is for low income countries gw already accomplished that.
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06.02.2019 - 16:09
Could you also clean up the units and strategies page, remove strats and units not in use.

Ok, after trying it for few games I would say this is bad strategy. The strategy basically involves spamming militia. Hell militia has same attack strength as tanks. Since this is a one unit strategy I would suggest increase the price of militia by 10 and reduce range by 1. Otherwise this is way over powered.

One strategy similar to this is GW. But even GW didn't have this way over powered militia. Gw is essentially a stealth strategy that means to beat gw you need to attack its marines (weaker defense). Also in gw militia don't have the range same as insurrection. Here you have a single unit that is good for both attack and defense.

Imagine playing turkey 3 v 3 with this strategy.....
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06.02.2019 - 20:17
The range of mil is just too OP. Played 1v1 germ ins vs uk pd, when germ starts taking over birm, 8 free militia! GG.
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09.02.2019 - 14:25
Here's a thought for consideration!

Boost Iron Fist:
+1 mvmt mil

Boost Relentless Attack
+1 att tanks (or maybe +1 health?)
-1 att infantry
-1 def militia (open to discussion on this)
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10.02.2019 - 04:28
Wr1tt3n by iseun, 09.02.2019 at 14:25

Here's a thought for consideration!

Boost Iron Fist:
+1 mvmt mil

Boost Relentless Attack
+1 att tanks (or maybe +1 health?)
-1 att infantry
-1 def militia (open to discussion on this)

Buff if nice joke dont make it more op
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10.02.2019 - 09:17
This new strategy is pretty uneven. It's impossible to win against it on default Europe or Europe+ map, for example.

At least give and option to disable specific strategy on game making.
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10.02.2019 - 13:38
Wr1tt3n by Froyer, 10.02.2019 at 04:28

Wr1tt3n by iseun, 09.02.2019 at 14:25

Here's a thought for consideration!

Boost Iron Fist:
+1 mvmt mil

Boost Relentless Attack
+1 att tanks (or maybe +1 health?)
-1 att infantry
-1 def militia (open to discussion on this)

Buff if nice joke dont make it more op

which?
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11.02.2019 - 13:18
 Dave (4dm1n)
Okay, Insurrection has just been nerfed again. -1 range and -1 defense for militia. Let's see how that goes...
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11.02.2019 - 14:07
Good news
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11.02.2019 - 14:32
Wr1tt3n by Dave, 11.02.2019 at 13:18

Okay, Insurrection has just been nerfed again. -1 range and -1 defense for militia. Let's see how that goes...

Thank you for the fast reply!
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12.02.2019 - 12:46
Wr1tt3n by Dave, 11.02.2019 at 13:18

Okay, Insurrection has just been nerfed again. -1 range and -1 defense for militia. Let's see how that goes...

Now its just a worse gw.4 def mil imao D Also people crying about spamming militia is funny since at least half countries in 3v3s spam pd infantry DDDD
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12.02.2019 - 13:51
Okay tried it in a game. It's still very strong, but not as crazy as it used to be. I think it needs a -1/-2def for infantry and then it should be in a state where it's not OP.
It definitely has it's weaknesses now.
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13.02.2019 - 01:06
Could be a good strategy for a zombie faction in a zombie mod. low range and can snowball.
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13.02.2019 - 01:28
Wr1tt3n by Nations, 12.02.2019 at 12:46

Wr1tt3n by Dave, 11.02.2019 at 13:18

Okay, Insurrection has just been nerfed again. -1 range and -1 defense for militia. Let's see how that goes...

Now its just a worse gw.4 def mil imao D Also people crying about spamming militia is funny since at least half countries in 3v3s spam pd infantry DDDD

Im pretty sure gw doesnt get a 40
cost 6 attack unit.

Here's a protip, you can still use infantry to defend with insurrection.
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13.02.2019 - 09:00
Wr1tt3n by Witch-Doctor, 13.02.2019 at 01:28

Wr1tt3n by Nations, 12.02.2019 at 12:46

Wr1tt3n by Dave, 11.02.2019 at 13:18

Okay, Insurrection has just been nerfed again. -1 range and -1 defense for militia. Let's see how that goes...

Now its just a worse gw.4 def mil imao D Also people crying about spamming militia is funny since at least half countries in 3v3s spam pd infantry DDDD

Im pretty sure gw doesnt get a 40
cost 6 attack unit.

Here's a protip, you can still use infantry to defend with insurrection.

Indeed but spamming infantry lowers your spam for 1att units...
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